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I'm looking to replace my beloved 21" Sony G500 with something a little less... thick. I'm willing to spend the bucks to get an LCD screen that performs well. I do a bit of Photoshopping, but I'm not too worried about that. What I need info about is gaming.
If I get a big screen which puts out 1920x1200, and I have to downgrade the sucker to 1280x(something) to be competitive at GTA, will the game look like junk?
Experiences? Suggestions? Thanks!!!
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Yes, the game would look like crap. I recommend getting a really good gfx card before getting the LCD. I have a 19 inch widescreen at 1440 x 900 and it takes a huge toll in fps.
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Samsung 215TW. 21" Widescreen 16:10 with a 1680 x 1050 resolution. Excellent color reproduction for photo/video editing and its fast enough for gaming.
Like Lax said though, if you can't run your favorite apps at a LCD's native res, you should upgrade you videocard before you get a new monitor.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| That explains why 1024x768 looks a lot worse than on my old monitor. I wish I could play 1280x1024, looks great. |
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Good gfx cards are approx 80 dollars. Pretty cheap.
Unless you want to go crazy with a 768 MB gfx card...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| lax16 wrote: | | I recommend getting a really good gfx card before getting the LCD. |
Well said. Thank you, sir!
You just gave me an execuse to forgo the new riding lawnmower this summer! 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Kyuusei wrote: | Samsung 215TW. 21" Widescreen 16:10 with a 1680 x 1050 resolution. Excellent color reproduction for photo/video editing and its fast enough for gaming.
Like Lax said though, if you can't run your favorite apps at a LCD's native res, you should upgrade you videocard before you get a new monitor. |
likewise get a smaller lcd w/ a lower native so your current card would work
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| [-aRcTiC-] wrote: | | Kyuusei wrote: | Samsung 215TW. 21" Widescreen 16:10 with a 1680 x 1050 resolution. Excellent color reproduction for photo/video editing and its fast enough for gaming.
Like Lax said though, if you can't run your favorite apps at a LCD's native res, you should upgrade you videocard before you get a new monitor. |
likewise get a smaller lcd w/ a lower native so your current card would work |
Personally, I wouldn't recommend that. Its more like downgrading than upgrading doing that. Anyways, you'll have to upgrade your videocard anyways so it'll be a good excuse to lay on your spouse/mom/dad/conscience/whatever.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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things are getting cheaper and cheaper but then again everybodies' budget differ from yours
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I'd rather wait till I can afford both a nice LCD and a Videocard with enough oomph to drive it than skimp on the LCD now and get stuck with a disappointing LCD. But thats just me. When I buy things that I intend to keep for a long time, I'd rather spend more money now to get some quality stuff than to go buy some cheaper interim crap to hold me over till I can get the thing I really want.
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http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/valueseries/va1912wb/
The ViewSonic VA1912wb, reasonably priced right around $200 at most sites.
19"
1440x900 native (16:10)
5ms response time
Option for RGB (analog) or DVI (digital) input
(I'd definitely go with widescreen as that seems to be the general trend in new display formats)
We have several of these where I work at. They're definitely nice. I don't have one in my office, but I've played around with one of my coworker's displays. We've had them for almost two years and don't plan on changing any time soon. I'm probably going to get one for myself whenever my ViewSonic CRT decides to quit on me (which is probably never ).
GTA has a widescreen option, where it just horizontally squishes the graphics so when stretched back out to fit your 16:9/16:10 display they will look normal.
For other games that don't support wider aspect ratios, you can always set the monitor to letterbox the 4:3 image rather than stretch it to fit the screen. Stretching the image would definately make it look like crap.
Of course, if you just wan't ultimate compatibility with today's games you could just get a 4:3 XGA/SXGA native LCD monitor. There are several of these still on the market.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| mdawgmike wrote: | http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/valueseries/va1912wb/
The ViewSonic VA1912wb, reasonably priced right around $200 at most sites.
19"
1440x900 native (16:10)
5ms response time
Option for RGB (analog) or DVI (digital) input
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I'd go for that samsung instead of this one.... ViewSonic? Who the hell is that????
These no-name LCD monitors might save you money, but they also save you from top quality material...with electronics, you get what you pay for, it's not like clothes or other consumer products.... the best thing to do is shop around, and not go for the no-namers. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: |
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no.
There are only like 2 companies in the world that make the parts for LCD technology. The screens are then sold to other companies like sony or view sonic or whatever and they assemble them into their own style. That's are you are paying for, style. As long as the specs are the same, they are the same.
Just like buying groceries. If you go down the bread isle, you will see sunbeam or colonial for like $3.00 a loaf. Then you will see the store brand next to for like $1.75. Guess what? They were both made at the same bakery. The only difference is when they finished the run for the name brand loaves, they stopped the line and changed out the bags for the store brand. The same bread is in both bags.
Don't buy into marketing schemes. I have plenty more examples if you want them.
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| SuicideKingKarce wrote: | | mdawgmike wrote: | http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/valueseries/va1912wb/
The ViewSonic VA1912wb, reasonably priced right around $200 at most sites.
19"
1440x900 native (16:10)
5ms response time
Option for RGB (analog) or DVI (digital) input
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I'd go for that samsung instead of this one.... ViewSonic? Who the hell is that????
These no-name LCD monitors might save you money, but they also save you from top quality material...with electronics, you get what you pay for, it's not like clothes or other consumer products.... the best thing to do is shop around, and not go for the no-namers. |
You're kidding right? ViewSonic has long been a strong name in the display business. They're not often sold in typical stores, but through various online merchants and suppliers. This could possibly be why some haven't heard of them. Above all they're known for their visual performance and rock solid reliability. $200 may sound cheap, but this is from their value series (and it's still good...look for reviews on the product). This also depends where you buy it. If this were sold in a store like Best Buy it would most likely be around $260 (the base msrp).
Hitachi makes their projectors, as well as some of their TV components. I'm not saying every product they make is good, but for the most part their stuff is quality. Sorry...I'm just surprised anyone would label ViewSonic as "cheap". I would expect overpriced if anything (for their higher-end models). I've had my CRT from them six years strong and not a single issue with it.
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