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SpecialKLSX
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 Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: Desktop processors to hit 6 core in 2010 |
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Anyone else slightly suprised that instead of going up we've seen "BigBlue" and "LilGreen" grow outwards in terms of processing power? So many people predicted 4corex4Ghz processors for 2010 and instead they are still running 3.2-3.4 but adding another pair of cores to the flagship processors. It's funny in a way but also slightly dissapointing. Not many apps day to day utilize 2 cores letalone 4, and now we get sextuple core processors?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10032313-64.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10253294-64.html
And on the other end we have the single core processor, about to go extinct. Why? Why not continue to make a single core processor from the reject bin? AMD has been doing that with the Athlon/Phenom X3 and X2 for the better part of the year and they are no doubt saving the company's ass when it comes to using every last piece of material possible. What's truly on the horizon for us? And will it really make our experiences when it comes to processor crunching apps less time consuming? Or will our electric company be the only ones enjoying this next crest on the mountain that is technology?
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the issue is that even if we try to make the CPU speed even further into like the 8ghz, it still won't be as effective. You have to redesign the architecture of the CPU in order to make it even faster than the previous model. Which is why Pentium 4 with 5 ghz still cannot beat an Core2Duo E8400 at 2.8ghz. Even then if you want to make the cpus that fast, it is MUCH easier for the CPU to overheat so it forces people to buy really big coolers which is not worth the investment.
The reason not many want to program things that have more than 1 cpu cores is because the coding can get pretty complex. But once you actually get it coded right, multicore programs can run significantly faster than a single core at 4 ghz. Since the newer CPUs have newer architectures like Core2quad and Corei7, the difference is already significant enough that a single corei7 core is faster than a single core2quad core.
Multiple CPUs have always been a better option since the 1980s. For many home users, it is useless but in the use of radars and other huge technological machine it is very useful. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Desktop processors to hit 6 core in 2010 |
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Well...looking at the two links the target market is for servers. Which, at least I think, very well benefit from multiple cores. Being the multi-taskers they are it allows more processes to be ran at higher priorities. In the case of a game server like ours it would mean 6 source dedicated servers running smooth as butter instead of the four we have now. I could sure go for that! Granted you can still physically run multiple servers on a single core, but then performance starts to be compromised.
Although, I would agree for a home computer that (at least currently) a better processor core is more effective than more of them. Anything bigger than a dual core serves no purpose for most applications.
| SpecialKLSX wrote: | | Or will our electric company be the only ones enjoying this next crest on the mountain that is technology? |
Yea...definitely a disturbing trend. Although they have been making great strides to improve efficiencies in other areas. One recent example is the integration of the memory controller right on the CPU for core i5/i7 chips. This results in overall less power consumption as there no longer needs to be a separate memory controller on the motherboard. Also my Core2Duo draws considerably less power than the (older, slower) AMD X2 I had. Dunno if that's just Intel or not tho  . What I'm more worried about is the trend graphics cards have been going in  .
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Someone send me a new computer....
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Desktop processors to hit 6 core in 2010 |
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| mdawgmike wrote: |
Well...looking at the two links the target market is for servers. Which, at least I think, very well benefit from multiple cores. Being the multi-taskers they are it allows more processes to be ran at higher priorities. In the case of a game server like ours it would mean 6 source dedicated servers running smooth as butter instead of the four we have now. I could sure go for that! Granted you can still physically run multiple servers on a single core, but then performance starts to be compromised.
Although, I would agree for a home computer that (at least currently) a better processor core is more effective than more of them. Anything bigger than a dual core serves no purpose for most applications.
| SpecialKLSX wrote: | | Or will our electric company be the only ones enjoying this next crest on the mountain that is technology? |
Yea...definitely a disturbing trend. Although they have been making great strides to improve efficiencies in other areas. One recent example is the integration of the memory controller right on the CPU for core i5/i7 chips. This results in overall less power consumption as there no longer needs to be a separate memory controller on the motherboard. Also my Core2Duo draws considerably less power than the (older, slower) AMD X2 I had. Dunno if that's just Intel or not tho . What I'm more worried about is the trend graphics cards have been going in . |
Yes in the server category multi cores are the shiz, and from what else I've read they are coming to the desktop this upcoming year. It seems though that they are just dragging ass because about every processor you come into contact with can oc to 4.0 pretty easily.
And as for Graphics cards... no SHIT man, its' nuts that a GU packs more power away than the rest of the system. 
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