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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the gravity is put back to normal before the next round, then everything is fine. However, if it starts a round with low gravity, then it sets back to normal, gibs and nades are messed up.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still, if the map was made to be played with it off. Keep it off, simple as that. We have a low grav map, so if you want low grav vote it, when it comes up.

But that doesn't mean selecting it in admin panel and end up having it say "Do you want the next map to be ctf_ahopheus_b2"
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linage wrote:
...But that doesn't mean selecting it in admin panel and end up having it say "Do you want the next map to be ctf_ahopheus_b2"...


If I'm playing and a person says "I want to play XYZ map next" and one or 2 other people say "yeah" or some such positive response I normally do put it up for a single map vote. If it gets voted "no" and then a couple minutes later they say "well how about ABC map" and there is some positive response I'll put that up for a single map vote.

Basically whenever more than one person says they want something I've been willing to put it up for a vote. Last night Gizmo told me to stop doing that. I don't see the harm in letting people vote for stuff though - if they don't want it they can just vote no. Which is correct? Should I not be starting votes unless it seems everyone is complaining?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well 3/32 isnt even 1/4 of the server. And another problem is the fact people dont even pay attention to the vote. If there switching weapons they vote by accident. Or they just press a random number just to get it off there screen. Also Yes is 90% number 1 and that number everyone is pressing.

I only would start a map vote if its been playing for a long long LONG time, like 45-50+ min. Not when the map switching and then 5 minutes later 3 people say lets switch it to this map then having to vote.

The same problem happened in the MTA server. For the people who play on the MTA server when we had the vote shit enabled it was a pain in the ass. We couldnt even get through 5 minutes without someone wanting to change it.

Just let the map play through it, and if it doesnt have a time limit, and you have been playing it for a long time then start a "Random Map Vote" not a single. I know that warpaths time is screwed up as in every cap you get 30 minutes added on. That map goes on for way to long.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand and will continue to try and do what I'm supposed to however...

A single map vote doesn't necessarily mean it changes immediately. If we've been on a map for not too long and people ask "can we play XYZ as the next map" I've been doing a single vote to change it at the end of the current.

There are also maps people won't ever see in a random map vote so how are we supposed to find out if the majority want to play that next without a single map vote (that says "Will the next map be XYZ?")?

Also people are excited to try out Badlands right now since it's the new map and it doesn't come up very often in the random vote. I want people to be happy and get to try it out though so if people ask I've been putting it up for a vote.

You are right that 3/32 isn't the majority and not everyone has mics. That's the whole point of having a vote though IMO - it gives everyone a chance to weigh in on how they feel.

There usually aren't any surprises when I put a vote up - I ask if people want one and if I get some responses then I stick one up. I don't think I've been getting too many "accidental" votes becasue people didn't know it wsa coming and if I have then no one has said anything to me about it. Generally people seem pretty happy where we end up.

The exception to switching a map at the end of a round that hasn't been going on forever is when it's a special map like melee barn. After 15-20 minutes or so I'll normally ask if people want a random map vote because much longer than that and they are ready to start punching themselves in the face.

I may be wrong in the way I've been doing things and I'm willing to accept that (that's why I'm posting this here). So far to my knowledge though people have been pretty happy with the way I've been doing things.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with everything Megatherian said. The "accidental" voting is mostly sheer lazyness, and a single map vote normally ends with a overwhelming majority(95%).

I have been very happy with the way the servers have been ran recently, a huge improvement to playing warpath for 2 hours. Thank you for adding more admins, and also for choosing responsible ones.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The steps for map voting need to be:

Some people start crying for a new map


Start a vote, asking if we should have a new map vote

If yes, start a vote for a map/random map vote
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think i should be allowed to choose all maps when im on.

i mean im just so awesome how can people disagree with me.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally hate when Chef or any other admin starts a vote "Will the next map be X"

Just random it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has to be done for the admin only maps like Soccer.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamerofthegame wrote:
It has to be done for the admin only maps like Soccer.


yeah but soccer is quite possibly the biggest pile of shite i have seen on the server.
also im pretty sure it doesnt. seen mapvotes where it pops up every single map on the server in the list.
doing a random map vote i thought was exactley the same as the end of round mapvotes.
Pretty sure the only time u cant get certain maps is when u rtv and its only non custom maps.

ofc i could be totally wrong but hey.... well accept about soccer ofc. on that i couldnt be more right.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:
Gamerofthegame wrote:
It has to be done for the admin only maps like Soccer.


yeah but soccer is quite possibly the biggest pile of shite i have seen on the server.


Im almost done my map and its similer to soccer. Pure out deathmatch like it. But theres actual spawn rooms, no soccer ball to restart the round, and looks about 50x better.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gamerofthegame wrote:
It has to be done for the admin only maps like Soccer.


yeah but soccer is quite possibly the biggest pile of shite i have seen on the server.


Im almost done my map and its similer to soccer. Pure out deathmatch like it. But theres actual spawn rooms, no soccer ball to restart the round, and looks about 50x better.


And it has walls and shit. Right?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always try to ask what maps everyone wants on the random map vote. The only problem is that I only get a few responses.

And like someone said, when you are in battle and switching weapons, you're most likely going to hit 1 or 2 and not know what map you picked. Then as soon as the winning map begins everyone starts rtv'ing. That's the most annoying part.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i would like is a big announcement saying liek
MAP VOTE STARTING IN 5SECONDS.
anytime a vote comes lol. make things alot easier.
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